Comments on: On a Sunday Morning Nonetheless…

By: dummidumbwit

dummidumbwit — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 19:38:57 +0000

http://dummidumbwit.wordpress.com/2008/09/23/isnt-the-surge-a-bottom-up-strategy/

I cleaned up the previous comment and posted it as a kick it around idea.

By: dummidumbwit

dummidumbwit — Mon, 22 Sep 2008 01:19:47 +0000

I haven’t exactly figured this out yet, but try kicking it around. Whether or not the Iraqi regime survives is not the point in this line of thought. The success of the surge in basic security is achieved by the military/political arrangement done bottom up (Military thinkers are often quite good). McCain wants credit for it, not yet , but the concept is bottom up.)Obama’s economic plan is bottom up not trickle down, is there a connection between bottom up being right in both cases (forget whether the Iraqi regime cuts it, that isn’t the point I’m making)Is bottom up just better in both cases? Sorry, the idea is rough yet.

By: Cats r Flyfishn

Cats r Flyfishn — Sun, 21 Sep 2008 23:19:26 +0000

Bruce – you are right… this all started with St Ronnie and his trickle down economics. Since when did people with all this money care about the middle class.

By: Cats r Flyfishn

Cats r Flyfishn — Sun, 21 Sep 2008 23:17:55 +0000

If Barack Obama was 100% white, the polls would be 75% Obama, 25% McCain.

Obama must win if we want to save our economy. The boy Bush broke everything he ever touch and he even destroyed our financial institutions. This is what happens when a flunky becomes president. We don’t need another flunky in the White House.

By: Bruce

Bruce — Sun, 21 Sep 2008 22:40:24 +0000

“I place economy among the first and most important republican virtues, and public debt as the greatest of the dangers to be feared. To preserve our independence, we must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt.”

-Thomas Jefferson

The Republicans have pushed and enacted for de-regulation. Look back at Reagan. Trickle-down economics has not worked, nor has de-regulation with no controls and oversight.

The government, the large mortgage lenders, and the consumers all share part of the blame.

Bush has run up our national debt and has now added over 400 billion to it this year alone. It was estimated that add $400+ billion would be added next year, and this was BEFORE the current crisis and bailout.

The Outstanding Public Debt as of 21 Sep 2008 is
$ 9,670,186,614,161.

The National Debt has continued to increase an average of $1.84 billion per day since September 28, 2007!

And Kristopher, didn’t you understand what happened in the Global markets when this occurred this week? Under your President, if AIG were allowed to go under, do you know what effect that would have created?

I am not for across the board bailout and I’m not for putting the burden on us taxpayers either. Frankly I’m mad as hell about this whole mess. But something had to be done to gain some stability. I do believe McCain is clueless. He doesn’t understand ecomonics. He has horrible advisers, including Gramm, who also helped us get in this mess with his support of de-regulation.

It’s time to hand things back over to a Democrat with some intelligence and insight. Things weren’t perfect in the economy under Clinton but they sure were a helluva lot better. And Congress needs to get its act together.

Read this about the National Debt under our various Presidents. Insightful:

http://www.cedarcomm.com/~stevelm1/usdebt.htm

By: dummidumbwit

dummidumbwit — Sun, 21 Sep 2008 21:54:45 +0000

George Will talking bad about McCain, he may as well just hang it up? Excellent post Bro!

By: thelogicalsmoker

thelogicalsmoker — Sun, 21 Sep 2008 19:53:39 +0000

While I appreciate the comment, it appears you are mistaken…
You should check this article out for a more in depth details: http://online.wsj.com/public/article_print/SB121867201724238901.html

At the end of the day, Obama’s plan is designed to cut unnecessary spending and bring down the budget deficit…

While the financial sector is just a sector, the commander in chief does have influence on the regulations that control it…

With that said, I dont think anyone thinks by merely electing Sen. Obama, all of our problems will be fixed…

Its just the difference between a giving a Democrat run the show for a change or continuing the charades the GOP has dragged us through for the last 8 years…

You claim you aspire to be wealthy but what makes you think you can get there with GOP trickle down economics???

Logical

By: Kristopher

Kristopher — Sun, 21 Sep 2008 19:30:57 +0000

In all fairness, Barrack Obama knows as much the economy as you do. The Financial Sector is a just that, a sector. It just on piece of a very complex puzzle. Granted it can effect the others, but as a whole the economy is still growing and people are still working. And don’t even begin to think to bring up the 600,000 unemployed when how many milion more jobs have been created.

At least McCain’s economic plan won’t cause a depression like Obama’s. Obama want’s to everyone to stop paying thier fair shre of taxes because of those evil “rich” people. Give me a break. I live in the San Francisco Bay Area where many of the neighborhoods the median income is over $100,000 a year. I don’t make that much but I aspire to. If Obama decides to tax the hiogher level’s of income then who would want to get there. He’ll have to do it at an outragious amount to pay for all of the crap he’s promised plus the normal day to day runnings of the govenrment.

Everybody is so excited about Obama so they haven’t read the fine print. In fact you really can’t, he dosen’t have the balls to detail his plans on his website. I’ve been there and it so lacking in detail compared to the McCain site.

No maybe it you Obama fans got off your asses and actually learned something about doing something for yourself instead of waiting for the govenment to take care of you then maybe this country would have a future!!!!